“Having read Willie Coupar’s tale about Kinnaird Auchterlonie, can I point out his surname was spelt OUCHTERLONIE,” opened Doug.
“I lived beside him at 12a Hawkhill — he lived in the back land right, low door right.
“I’m almost certain he played for Dundee, then moved to United.
“He was with Dundee United when they beat Celtic at Tannadice in the Scottish Cup on January 22, 1949. The score was 4-3 United. The hero that day was Alec Edmiston, United’s goalkeeper.
“K. Ouchterlonie didn’t play in that game, but he sat with other United players on benches behind the Arklay Street end.
“He was a shoemaker and repairer after finishing with football, and his shop was about four shops up from Hunter Street on the Hawkhill.
“I actually delivered repaired shoes for him one Saturday as his usual message lad was off.
“He got me all the United players’ autographs, but, alas, they are all gone.
“I also remember Alec Kiddie playing for the teachers against Dundee Postal in the annual friendly in the late 50s.
“I also played in that game at Gilburn Park.
“The officials forgot to open the park, so we all climbed over the wall, Alec Kiddie included.
“Those were the days when fans would go to Dens one Saturday, then Tannadice the next.
“A great pity it doesn’t happen now.
“Just think of the attendances and revenue for the clubs.”
Dundee United historian STEVE GRACIE also mentioned the spelling anomaly.
“Is this Kinnaird OUCHTERLONIE, who played for Dundee and United?” asked Steve.
“If so, you will find references to him in my book - ‘A Passion For Survival’ (Pages 313, 318).
JIM RODGER, of Ogilvy Street, Tayport, reckons a Ken Ouchterlonie “was on Celtic’s books at one time and played for Dundee United in later years.”
He continued, “He was not a big man, but was a wonderful inside-forward.
“He came from Newport-on-Tay. Could it be the same K. Ouchterlonie?”
Indeed, it is, and confirmation came from no less a source than Kinnaird’s daughter.
“Dad’s real name was Kinnaird Robb Richardson Oucherlonie,” said AILEEN BISHOP from her home in Canvey Island, Essex.
“However, he was rarely referred to by his proper name and it was nearly always ‘Ken’.
“I’ve a bag of dad’s memorabilia, including photos, books, cutting and caps, and one of your readers — a Mr Coupar — has contacted me and is keen to meet up to view these items.
“For the record, dad had a brother called Willie, who also played football.”
LAWSIDE ACADEMY’S FAMOUS FOOTBALL TEAM
FRANKIE CAMPBELL (maureenandfrank@googlemail.com) gave a bit more info on the Lawside Academy mini-reunion (BwB, June 6).
“The guy on the right in the photograph from the Fort is Mikey Kolacz, who played left-back in our Scottish Cup-winning team,” said Frankie, my old mate from my young days growing up in Balerno Street, Douglas, Dundee.
Indeed, three of the Lawside team stayed in that street.
Frankie, who stayed in No. 48, continued, “I don’t think he played much football after school.
“One outstanding memory of Mikey is that he famously kicked the ball over Motherwell’s stand in the final’s second leg.
“It was 40 years ago last month that Lawside won the Scottish Cup beating Hillhead (or Hillside?) 6-2 at Tannadice and 3-1 at Fir Park.
“At Tannadice, Hillhead scored in just 15 seconds, but George Forbes equalised. Davie Brogan put us ahead.
“Davie Henderson (a former Broughty Athletic team-mate) scored four goals in an seven-minute spell early in the second half, one a penalty which he was brought down for.
“I can’t remember the second-leg scorers, but the team was Joe Forbes (now a taxi driver in Dundee), me at right-back (I now work in Michelin) and Mikey Kolacz at left-back (Mikey works for BT and lives in Broughty Ferry).
“Our half-back line was Derek Mousley (another Balerno Street resident, possible No. 22 or 24)) at right-half, Gerry Toshney at centre-half (librarian in Kilmarnock) and yet another Balerno guy (No. 25) Lawrie Blyth at left-half (now in New Zealand).
“The front line was Davie Henderson (AA, living in Birmingham), Davie Brogan (pictured with Osborne in BwB, May 30, and now living in Melbourne), George Forbes (Melbourne), Joe Tront (Melbourne, also in that Osborne photo) and Davie Alexander (Carnoustie).
“Other players used were Allan McKenzie (now in New Zealand, who played for many years at Arbroath) Billy Piggott (Dundee) and Martin Lindsay, who works in D. C. Thomson (both team-mates with Auchterhouse).
“The most succesful player from that team was undoubtedly Allan, a Douglas lad who played right-back for the Red Lichties for several years.
“I had spells with Celtic and Dundee United, Joe joined Raith Rovers, George signed for Cowdenbeath, and Davie Henderson was with Dundee.
“Lawrie went south with Preston North End and Davie Brogan was also affiliated to a senior club, but I can’t remember which.
“None of us really made the senior grade except Allan.”
MINCE BONUS
BRIAN CHRISTIE (1brianchristie@blue yonder.co.uk), of Dundee, used to play in the same team as DAVID SKELLIGAN, who was featured in BwB on May 16.
“However, it was not at football,” said Brian, surprisingly.
“It was dominoes, and we played with the Claverhouse Bar in Trottick.
“We would come up against the likes of Dolphin, Happyhillock, Powrie, and so on.
“When we went to these places, he was greeted by some of the older men who knew him or previously played with him.
“They would shout, ‘Look out, here’s Dirty Skelly’ as that was his affectionate nickname.
“He would sit down and have a blether (good word!) with them.
“We also worked together in the DRI, where he was the mail man.
“He was a great man and his party piece was the song ‘Roll A Silver Dollar’.
“It’s true about the sausages — and the bonus for winning was mince as well.”
“TEAM WITH NO NAME” IS IDENTIFIED
My former Auchterhouse team-mate DAVE TOSNEY identified last week’s “Team With No Name” as MARRYAT SOUTH (with a little help, I’m told, from JOHN CUSHNIE and BOBBY FITCHETT).
THE CHARLIE LOVE COLLECTION : PART I.
I’ve met former Dundee Osborne JFC legendary defender CHARLIE LOVE a couple of times over the past few months (actually, about a year!).
From our first conversation, Charlie mentioned he had “many” photos from the past which could be suitable for BwB.
Since then, I’ve been pestering the former tough-tackling full-back to send them in to me and, finally, he has come up with the goods.
And then some!
Charlie’s collection is absolutely brilliant and features some great names.
So, over the next few weeks, I’m going to feature many of Charlie’s photos — starting with the Bourners’ trip to Wembley in 1965 for the annual England v. Scotland home international.
See photo below.
Included in the photo are Allan Gorrie, Willie Thain, Norrie Thain, Jackie Cole, Johnny Stewart, Jim Thornton, John Leddie, Peter Robertson, Willie Ferguson, Willie Reid, Dave McKenzie, Jim Menzies, Norrie Soutar, George Ramsay, George Mackay, Bob Bertie, Stan Gardiner, Dave Couttie, Harry Easson, Jim Love, Charlie Love, Joe Brodie, Peter Schiavetta, Ronnie Hill, Jim Fernie and, with the flag, Doug Dailly and Dave Robertson.
