PETERS BROTHERS’ MOUTHS MOVED, BUT NO WORDS CAME OUT

Dundonian DREW PETERs, now living in Toronto, Canada, always lets you know where his allegiance lies.

He opened, “Just back from the North American Celtic Convention in Las Vegas . . . Hail! Hail!”

Once he got that particular statement off his chest, Drew, a family friend, continued, “I have just received this old photograph of DUNDEE OSBORNE, which is in not bad shape and I have all the names of the players.

“It came from my brother Alan’s father-in-law JOHNNY WEBSTER, who stays in Craigie, Dundee.

“I can’t remember the exact date, although I think it was around 1962-64. It was definitely taken at Glenesk Park when we won a cup. However, I can’t remember which trophy it was.

“However, I do remember we each received 30 bob (£1.50) for winning that day.

“It would be great if someone would remember the opposition, score and any other details,” concluded Drew, who is a travel consultant in the Canadian metropolis.

Checking our files, the only cups which the Bourners won around that time were the Kiddie Cup in 1963-64 and the Telegraph Cup in 65-66.

However, some BwB reader might know more — or better!

Staying with Drew, there’s a funny story from a few years back.

Along with Drew and his brother Alan, of Monifieth, we were hospitality guests at Dens Park for a game.

As is the norm at these events, the alcohol flowed freely, but, as I was working in the evening, I couldn’t partake with my two buddies.

Anyway, a good afternoon was had by all, and I tentatively arranged to meet them in a hostelry in Broughty Ferry later that evening after I finished work.

Of course, I didn’t really expect them to be there — I thought they would be well tucked up in bed by that time.

But, no . . . the happy (very!) duo were still there, but could barely speak and, indeed, seemed to be holding each other up.

However, being brothers, they just nodded and grimaced to each other, their mouths moving, but no words were coming out.

Indeed, it seemed to be a special “language” that only siblings could understand.

They did get home safely that evening, though, and we all had a really good laugh when I told them about their antics the following day.

JUST WHO WAS THE MYSTERY KEEPER?

DONALD GELLATLY (donaldgellatly@hotmail.com) responds to a May 11 article where we asked readers if they had any input on teams who have set record attendances at other club’s old and new grounds.

From various sources, Donald has gathered the current record attendances for new Scottish League grounds (which includes a friendly and three cup games). They are:

Airdrie — 8995 v. Celtic in August 1998 (opposition for old ground — Hearts).

Clyde — 8000 v. Celtic, January 2006 (Rangers).

Dumbarton — 1959 v. Queen’s Park, April 2002 (Raith Rovers).

East Fife — 1900 v. Queen’s Park, May 2003 (Raith Rovers).

Falkirk — 7245 v. Rangers, December 2006 (Celtic).

Hamilton — 4280 v. Sunderland, July 2001 (Hearts).

Inverness CT — 7512 v. Rangers, August 2005 (ICT v Ross County).

Livingston — 10,112 v. Rangers, October 2001 (Meadowbank v Albion Rovers).

Peterhead — 3700 v. Partick Thistle, 2006 (Raith Rovers).

St Johnstone — 10,575 v. Dundee, May 1999 (Dundee).

Stirling Albion — 3808 v. Aberdeen, February 1996 (Celtic).

Only club

“Dundee appear to be the only club to have taken part in record attendances at old and new grounds of the same club,” observed Donald.

“On another note, I have a Dundee FC question that’s been puzzling me for some time?

“It’s from the 1916-17 season when Dundee fielded a keeper as a trialist or ‘war-time guest’ against Ayr United, but his name wasn’t given.

“I’ve looked up old newspapers and there are no clues as to the identity of the mystery goalkeeper.

“Perhaps a BwB reader knows of a father, uncle or former neighbour who played in goal at that time.

“I know it is a long shot, but BwB readers often surprise with their knowledge.”

Our files just reveal the goalkeeper as “Newman”, a name often used at the time to list a trialist.

As Donald said, it’s over to the BwB readers and I will be really impressed if you solve this one!

KNOWN AS JIMMY

ERIC DARGIE (ericdargie1@optusnet.com.au), from Australia, writes in response to a March 16 piece.

“There was an item about Scone Thistle JFC’s Scott Farquharson,” said Eric.

“I was at school with him, and was also a neighbour.

“I also played in the U/14 Morgan team that beat St John’s in the Championship in 1947, and he was known then as Jimmy,

“If I remember, his name was James Scott Sutherland Farquharson.

“I will check with Clem Mann, who lives near me in Australia, and we often talk about the Ashdale and Butterburn U/16 teams.”

CHARLES NOT IMPRESSED

In some of our May issues, there was a debate as to why Dundee FC’s south enclosure was nicknamed The Derry.

However, the replies failed to impress CHARLES CAMPBELL, of Happyhillock Road, Dundee.

“I had to respond after seeing some of the replies,” said Charles.

“I’m sorry if the proper answer might not suit everybody, but this is it.

“Dundee, in years past, had some Loyalist fans, i.e. those who waved the Union Jack and sang songs like I Was Born Under a Union Jack.

“They got the name Derry after calling themselves Dens Derry, which they had got from the Rangers support, which called themselves Brigton Derry (the covered terracing at old Ibrox was called the Derry long before Dundee’s was.)

“Others will pretend this is not the case, but it’s better to know the truth and not revise history.”

Next week . . . the whereabouts of the Urquhart Cup