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Blether with Brown - 29 July 2003
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CRAIGIE PLAYED WITH PASSION

More information on the East Craigie league-winning team of season 1984-85 has come in from former player Archie Finnigan.

“After reading the letter from Shipbuilder on your page (BwB, June 20), I noticed he gave a list of the Craigie players of around the time,” said Archie.

“He listed nine of the League-winning squad.

“However, I am sure Alec McCarle and Dave Walker, who ran the team then, would confirm the other eight, who all played their part that year.

“Shipbuilder mentioned Ian Christie, Jackie Burns, George Nicoll, Brian Peacock, Andy Riley, Ian Cook, George Crozier, Ricky Donnelly and Ronnie Duell.

“He missed out Brian Hughes, Iain Guild, John Reid, Dougie Kidd, Ian Wynne, Sean Hird, Albert McPherson and myself.

“Every one of the players mentioned above played for the shirt with pride and lots of passion.

“The year before winning the league, East Craigie won the Inveralmond Cup with a 2-1 victory over Forfar Albion, both goals coming from top goalscorer Iain Guild.

“That victory was probably the starting block which gave the squad the confidence to go on and take the Second Division from the more-fancied Downfield.

“Kevin Mackie, John Irons and Grant McLean joined in 1985-86, as far as I can remember.

“I’m an Ex-Shipbuilder — and proud of it!”

WESTIE HAS THE FACTS

Former Douglas Amateurs team-mate Jim Westwater was able to reveal who the “Unknown” player was in last week’s team photo.

“It was a player called Billy Livie,” said Jim, who then went on to reveal some of the statistics regarding the Douglas team at that time.

Now, anyone who knows Jim — a great player in his day, by the way, not least for Elmwood Juniors — would, like me, be astonished that he could come up with stats such as this.

Westie, as he is affectionately known, was always a bit of a maverick, and did not seem to me to be the type of individual who would note such details.

Just goes to show how much I know.

“Under the managership of Billy McCluskey and John Brown, Douglas won quite a few trophies,” said Westie, who also enjoyed Sunday Amateur success in the twilight of his career with DCC and Bank Street Athletic.

“In season 1978-79, we were runners-up in the league and won the James Oliver Trophy.

“The following season (1979-80) was when we won the league and also retained the James Oliver Trophy. We were beaten finalists that season in both the North of Tay Cup and Thomson Trophy.

“In season 1980-81, we were fifth in the league, but won the Angus Challenge Cup. However, we were again runners-up in the Thomson Trophy.

“The Thomson was eventually won in 1981-82, when we also finished third in the league.

“I hope that covers the McCluskey/Brown era for you.”

WHEN DUNDEE HIT MAN. UTD. AND BOBBY CHARLTON FOR FIVE

Ken Schiavetta, from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, was in Seattle this week to watch the Celtic v. Manchester United friendly.

“I remember seeing Manchester United play in Dundee in the late 1950s,” he emails. “Was this a friendly? Can you give the line-ups?”

Dundee beat Manchester United 5-1 at Dens Park in a friendly game on Monday, April 9, 1957.

Manchester United had just been crowned champions of the old English First Division (THE top division in thos days) the previous week, and it was Bobby Charlton’s first game for the Red Devils.

George Merchant scored a hat-trick, with other goals from Cousin and O’Hara. Webster netted for Man. U.

Dundee — Brown; Gray, Irvine, Black, Stevenson, Cowie, Stables, Cousin, Merchant, O’Hara, Ritchie.

Manchester United — Wood; Greaves, Kennedy, Goodwin, Jones, McGuinness, Berry, Viollet, Webster, Charlton, Pegg.

MORE FACTS ON THAT MATCH, PLEASE

Iain Ferrie, of Honeygreen Road, Dundee, writes, “I’ve enjoyed the anecdotes regarding the Blairgowrie v. Rangers Scottish Cup tie from the 1930s, especially the one when a punter was told the score was 14-2 and asked ‘Wha fur?’

“You stated that Blairgowrie were a non-league side at the time.

“In what league were they playing, what was the criteria for entering the Scottish Cup and who did they meet and beat in the qualifying rounds prior to being drawn against Rangers?”

Although records are a bit scant on this, it’s reckoned they were a Northern League side, which was akin to the current Highland League, East of Scotland League and so on.

The criteria for entering the Scottish Cup would be the same as it is today . . . full membership of the SFA.

As for who Blairgowrie beat in the qualifying rounds, it’s over to the readers yet again.

FINTRY JUVENILES REUNION PLANNED

Reader John Ward sent in this photo of what seems to be a very successful Fintry Juveniles team, judging by the amount of trophies on show at this awards evening.

However, he fails to give the year.

Judging by the hairstyles, flared trousers, flowery shirts, Jim Fyffe’s trim waist and Ricky McCormack’s boyish looks, I’d put it at around the mid-1970s.

“We are having a reunion at the end of August,” said John.

“Anyone who would like to attend should get in touch with either Peter Robertson (861497) or Jackie Butchart (500429).”

Players pictured below are: Back (from left) — Rab Ward, Jake Butchart, Jimmy Stewart, Sandy Osborne, Jim Fyffe, Wullie McGregor. Front — Ricky McCormack, John Ward, Lindsay Rennie, Wullie Rattray, Dave Simpson.

Write to: John Brown, Sports Desk, Evening Telegraph,

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